我是生存在天主教和新教之间的困难人。。

求吾主怜悯

註   释
註一：[2004-04-04/联合报E7版/联合副刊]
註二:引自一位该片的观赏者Scott的文字记录。
註三：引自一位该片的观赏者Mrs.Michael J.O’Donnell的文字记录。
註四：Thomas Watson著，钱曜诚、罗伟伦译，《系统神学》，（台北市：加尔文出版社， 1998年五月初版），第四十三页。
註五：〔2004-03-28/星报7版〕
标题：受难记感化杀人犯
看完电影后自首，坦承掐死了女友  记者严婷婷/报导

梅尔吉勃逊影响力之大，如果知道拍部电影可以让警方提早破案，那警方应该出钱协助梅尔吉勃逊拍电影，最近他执导的受难记（The Passion of Christ）受到教徒的推崇，票房也拿下亮丽的成绩，但这回他功劳更大，因为有一位杀人犯看过电影后，自动到警局向警方坦承：「两个月前，我杀了我怀孕的女朋友。」

这件事发生在英国，英国本週上映该片，但在上映的第一天，这位自称犯案的人表示，他进了戏院观看这部电影后，如果没有坦承自己犯下的恶行，永远无法原谅自己，也会一辈子觉得自己骯脏，这位男子今年21岁，而女友小他两岁，他坦承自己是因为女友怀孕，精神压力变大，才会失去理智失手掐死女友。警方表示：这男子非常聪明，小心翼翼地设计一切，在掐死死者时还戴著手套，简直是执行死刑的完美谋杀案，这位杀人自首者说：「他觉得只有坦承一切罪行，才能得到救赎，这是唯一重生的办法。」如果梅尔吉勃逊听到这番告白，一定会让他笑开怀，因为他将上帝重现，让世人获得教训与警惕，不过这可能只对基督教徒有效，也许改天拍部跟妈祖、关公有关的电影，才能减少台湾的犯罪。
〔2004-03-28/星报7版〕

针对以上的报导，笔者认为，如果真如这个自首者所说「精神压力变大，才会失去理智失手掐死女友。」我们又要如何看待警方所提供的证据呢？

他并不是「精神压力变大，才会失去理智失手掐死女友。」而是警方所说的「小心翼翼地设计一切，在掐死死者时还戴著手套」。自首者宣称的「坦承一切」，并不是真的。真正向神认罪的人是不会为自己找藉口的，他不会为自己保留犯罪所得到的利益。
圣经上说：
箴28:13遮掩自己罪过的，必不享通。承认离弃罪过的，必蒙怜恤。

我们注意这个外邦记者严婷婷在结尾时所说的无知话「改天拍部跟妈祖、关公有关的电影，才能减少台湾的犯罪。」这种暂时的道德感化的假象，是曾经发生过的，就是本文中论及吴道子所画的「地狱变相图」所產生的效果。

註六：Jonathan Edwards:The Religious Affections，Pennsylvania，Banner of Truth，1994，p.235-236.
2. The extraordinary impressions which are made on the imaginations of some persons, in the visions and immediate strong impulses and suggestions that they have, as though they saw sights, and had words spoken to them, may, and often do beget a
strong persuasion of the truth of invisible things. Though the general tendency of such things, in their final issue, is to draw men off from the word of God, and to cause them to reject the gospel, and to establish unbelief and Atheism; yet for the present, they may, and often do beget a confident persuasion of the truth of some things that are revealed in the Scriptures; however their confidence is founded in delusion, and so nothing worth. As for instance, if a person has by some invisible agent, immediately and strongly impressed on his imagination, the appearance of a bright light, and glorious form of a person seated on a throne, with great external majesty and beauty, uttering some remarkable words, with great force and energy; the person who is the subject of such an operation, may be from hence confident, that there are invisible agents, spiritual beings, from what he has experienced, knowing that he had no hand himself in this extraordinary effect, which he has experienced: and he may also be
confident, that this is Christ whom he saw and heard speaking: and this may make him confident that there is a Christ, and that Christ reigns on a throne in heaven, as he saw him; and may be confident that the words which he heard him speak are true, &c.--
In the same manner, as the lying miracles of the Papists may, for the present, beget in the minds of the ignorant deluded people, a strong persuasion of the truth of many things declared in the New Testament. Thus when the images of Christ, in Popish churches, are on some extraordinary occasions, made by priestcraft to appear to
the people as if they wept, and shed fresh blood, and moved, and uttered such and such words; the people may be verily persuaded that it is a miracle wrought by Christ himself; and from thence may be confident there is a Christ, and that what they are told of his death and sufferings, and resurrection, and ascension, and present government or the world is true; for they may look upon this miracle, as a certain evidence of all these things, and a kind of ocular demonstration of them. This may be the influence of these lying wonders for the present; though the general tendency
of them is not to convince that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh, but finally to promote Atheism. Even the intercourse which Satan has with witches, and their often experiencing his immediate power, has a tendency to convince them of the truth of some of the doctrines of religion; as particularly the reality of an invisible world, or world of spirits, contrary to the doctrine of the Sadducees. The general tendency of Satan's influence is delusion: but yet he may mix some truth with his lies, that his lies may not be so easily discovered.

註七：Joseph Alleine著，钱曜诚、罗伟伦译，《给未曾归正者的警告》，（台北市：加尔文出版社，2003年七月二版），第53页。

註八：〔2004-04-01/民生报/C6〕、[2004-03-29/联合报/D4版/星闻e把罩]

瑞雪

觉得的新教教派多，就找最爱你的教派，肯定你会喜欢。

 

我喜欢归正宗，因为我很喜欢思考。

纯真乃缦

看到十楼所转改革宗牧师评论<耶稣受难记>的文字,真是被深深震撼了。俺怀疑当初楼主可能就是因为反感,新教宗派林立同时排他性极强的特点,才会投向天主教会吧

黑客酋长

以下是引用斯德望在2009-1-20 17:17:00的发言：

 

我是天主教徒。。。。

 

但是我居然不接受，教皇无误论。历史证明教皇仅仅是个人，错误多了去了。
2我坚决抵制天主教的本土化（请看景教在中国传播的滑稽不伦不类的历史）
3我厌恶天主教的供拜点中国式香祭祖（乌烟瘴气，招人误会，以为再拜鬼，中国人谁搞得清楚，是纪念还是拜鬼？）
4我对神父赦罪居然怀疑。（神父犯罪的例子，多了，一边主持告罪圣事，一边犯罪）
5我坚决抵制基督教和佛，伊斯兰等教的合一。（如果说尊重其他宗教信徒，那是对的，但是宗教之间怎么合一？）

这样看来，我已经是个天主教的叛逆了。。

求大家帮我祈祷，我迷路了。这个帖子不想发天主教的论坛，因为烦他们来改变我的观点，我看了他们的那些，只能心烦，而不会改变观点。

 

 

我想，，你的问题是，你的＂信＂的根基没有放在真正的磐石上。．．．

真正的磐石在哪里？找到了，，你就不会再困惑了。[em290]

斯德望

俺怀疑当初楼主可能就是因为反感,新教宗派林立同时排他性极强的特点,才会投向天主教会吧

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非常感谢肢体的安慰。我当初受洗天主教的主要原因是为了基督徒合一。其次才是觉得宗派太多，我倒不觉得基督新教排他，我一直觉得新教很刚强，不妥协。

其实我受洗前钻研过一年天主教的教理，觉得完全可以和新教合一的，结果就信而受洗了。

但是，现在是遇到了无比强大的和佛教合一论，这个观点横行于天主教内，主要是因为教宗指示。作为天主教徒怎么能不听教宗的呢？

而我是竭力的反感和佛教合作。台湾在搞的合作是前面一句阿弥托佛，后面一句阿门。什么玩意啊。。

我常去的一个天主教常青家园论坛，就是一坛子的人整天叫嚣和佛教合一，不合一就是极端，不包容，越听越生气，今天已经彻底退出来了。

居然还说和佛教合一是主托付给某人（叫嚣得最凶的那个佛教合一论者）的任务.自然我这样坚决不合作的基督徒就是有问题了。

所以一肚子的郁闷。如果和佛教合一是天主教徒必须做的，我坚决退出天主教会。绝不妥协。

 

纯真乃缦

象楼主这样的在天主教内应该不在少数。听说还有所谓"福音派天主教徒"的说法,我想你应该去找志同道和的他们。 要不然还是回到我们新教好了。

纯真乃缦

与佛教合一?那弄到最后不就是不依靠救主恩典也能得救,而且普世得救喽?

纯真乃缦

说一套做一套不去算,在神学上又能延伸到这一步,对天主教真是无语了。

[此贴子已经被作者于2009-1-21 7:52:10编辑过]

亚拿尼亚戴

 谢谢楼主和楼上的爆料和指点，学习了

蓝色心情

我们的信仰讲的是良心的自由，所以就不在这里乱出主意了；教义上每个人都有自己的领受，只要在合理的范围内是没有大问题的，只是劝楼主一定要委身教会。